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Sabian Symbols · Taurus 17 · degree 47 of 360

Swords against torches: blades fighting flames

The Sabian symbol for Taurus 17 is a picture in which swords battle against torches. The seventeenth image of Taurus sets two kinds of power against each other, and the tradition reads it as a symbol of the contest between force and illumination.

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Taurus 17 on the zodiac, in our own drawing: the 17th degree of Taurus among its thirty, and its place on the strip of all twelve signs, with the degree opposite, Scorpio 17.

Facts

Degree
Taurus 17, the 17th degree of Taurus
Of the 360
Degree 47
Positions it covers
Taurus 16°00′ up to Taurus 17°00′ (tropical longitude 46° to 47°)
Image (our words)
Swords fight against torches.
Keyword (ours)
Force versus light
Keynote (ours)
Power that cuts contends with power that illuminates.
Degree opposite
Scorpio 17 (degree 227), a reading aid
Before and after (Lynda Hill)
Taurus 16 and Taurus 18
Image recorded
San Diego, 1925: Elsie Wheeler described it, Marc Edmund Jones wrote it down

The image

The image is a struggle in which one side carries blades and the other carries flames. No armies, place or cause are named; the picture is reduced to the two kinds of instrument. A sword cuts and divides; a torch lights the way and can also burn. The contest is undecided in the image. Of the 360 pictures Elsie Wheeler described in 1925 as Marc Edmund Jones wrote them down, this is Taurus 17.

Meaning

Read as a symbol, the swords stand for force that settles things by cutting, and the torches for force that settles things by showing, by making the dark visible. The image asks which wins, and does not answer. Our keyword is Force versus light, and our keynote reads it in one line: power that cuts contends with power that illuminates. The tradition would read a placement here as a place where a person meets the tension between asserting and understanding, between winning an argument and seeing what is true. The image is about two ways of meeting a problem, not about a fight in anyone's life.

Lynda Hill reads the degree before and the degree after as a placement's Karmic Condition and Quest Degree. The one before is Taurus 16, the old man who cannot make the Mysteries plain; the one after is Taurus 18, where from a window a woman holds out a bag. Read by her rule, knowledge that cannot be spoken turns into a contest of blades and flames, and the contest gives way to a quiet gesture of offering something to the street. The degree opposite, Scorpio 17, is a mother who is also her child's father; as a reading aid it sets two powers held in one person beside two powers fighting each other.

In a chart

A planet or point anywhere from Taurus 16°00′ up to, but not including, Taurus 17°00′ takes this degree. The rule is to count the degree a position is in from one, so a Moon at Taurus 16°10′ reads Taurus 17, and so does one at Taurus 16°57′. Close to either edge, a small change in the birth time or the ephemeris moves a placement into the next image: into Taurus 18 after Taurus 16°59′, or back into Taurus 16 before Taurus 16°00′. That is why the chart shows the minute beside the degree. In EsoTerrier's Sabian chart the Sun, the Moon and the Ascendant are read first, then the Midheaven and the planets; each placement in Taurus 17 carries the image, keyword and keynote above, with Taurus 16, Taurus 18 and Scorpio 17 beside it.

Correspondences

Each item with how it stands: “sourced” is in the work cited, “our construction” is EsoTerrier’s own, and “disputed” means the sources disagree.

Where the image comes from
Recorded by Marc Edmund Jones in Balboa Park, San Diego, in 1925, as the clairvoyant Elsie Wheeler described the picture she saw for an unseen card; one of 360 done in a single day; published by Jones in 1953 sourced
Degree before and after
Taurus 16 and Taurus 18, read beside this degree after Lynda Hill, who calls them its Karmic Condition and its Quest Degree sourced
Degree opposite
Scorpio 17, 180° away, offered as a reading aid; it is arithmetic, not a rule of Jones's our construction
A position at Taurus 16°00′00″
Our engine, Hill's rule and every calculator we checked read it as Taurus 17; the Sabian Assembly's sunrise page reads it as Taurus 16. A computed chart practically never lands on it disputed

How the schools read it

Marc Edmund Jones (1953)
Gives the degree a symbol line, a commentary, a one-word keyword and a positive and a negative reading. We quote none of it.
Dane Rudhyar (1973)
Rewords the image and adds a keynote and a commentary of his own, numbering the degrees as Jones did. In copyright to 2068; not used, and the place he gives the degree in his own structure is not shown.
Lynda Hill (1995, 2004)
Uses the symbols as an oracle, with her own commentary, and reads each degree beside the one before and the one after. Her rule and her two names are cited here; her text is not used.
The Sabian Assembly
Jones's own study group serves the 1953 image and keyword of a degree in its oracle, without commentary, on purpose.
EsoTerrier
Our keynote: Power that cuts contends with power that illuminates.

Claims about it

  • The image line on this page, or on any site, is Elsie Wheeler's own wording.

    false

    What the record shows: Her words survive only as Jones's pencilled notes of 1925. Jones reworded them in 1931 and 1953, Rudhyar in 1936 and 1973, and Hill in her books.

  • Reading the degree before and the degree after is part of how the zodiac is built, or of Jones's method.

    false

    What the record shows: It is Lynda Hill's practice, and the two names are hers. We show the two degrees with her name.

  • Dane Rudhyar's 1973 lines are the Sabian symbols and free to print.

    false

    What the record shows: They are his rewording, with his own keynotes and commentary, renewed in 2002 and in US copyright to the end of 2068. None of them is used here.

Elsewhere on EsoTerrier

Sources

Primary texts (7)
  1. Marc Edmund Jones, The Sabian Symbols in Astrology: Illustrated by One Thousand Horoscopes of Well-Known People. New York: Sabian Publishing Society, 1953. Facts only; none of its wording is quoted.
  2. Library of Congress, Copyright Office, Catalog of Copyright Entries, third series, vol. 7 part 1, July to December 1953: Jones's book, A104127. archive.org/details/catalogofcopyrig371li
  3. US Copyright Office, Public Records System: searches for Jones, the Sabian symbols, Rudhyar and An Astrological Mandala (2026-10-10 and 2026-10-13). publicrecords.copyright.gov
  4. Dane Rudhyar, An Astrological Mandala. New York: Random House, 1973. In copyright; facts only.
  5. Marc Edmund Jones, Symbolical Astrology, mimeographed lessons 849 to 874, 18 May to 9 November 1931 (private circulation). Known from catalogue listings; not seen.
  6. Lynda Hill and Richard Hill, The Sabian Symbols as an Oracle. Avalon, NSW: White Horse Books, 1995; expanded edition 2002. Not opened.
  7. Lynda Hill, 360 Degrees of Wisdom. New York: Plume, 2004. Not opened; contents per degree from a review.
Studies and other sources (7)
  1. Diana E. Roche, "The Sabian Symbols: Origin and History", the Sabian Assembly. sabian.org/sabian_symbols.php
  2. The Sabian Assembly: the Sabian Symbol Oracle and the "Sabian Symbol at Sunrise" page. sabian.org/sabian_symbol_oracle.php
  3. Lynda Hill, sabiansymbols.com: "The Sabian Symbols Story", "Karmic and Quest Degrees" (2023) and her notes on using the symbols. sabiansymbols.com/about/the-sabian-symbols-story
  4. Astrodienst, "Sabian Symbols", Astrowiki. astro.com/astrowiki/en/Sabian_Symbols
  5. "Marc Edmund Jones", Wikipedia (orientation only). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Edmund_Jones
  6. Aeclectic Tarot, review of Lynda Hill's 360 Degrees of Wisdom (2005). aeclectic.net/tarot/books/360-degrees-of-wisdom
  7. Astrograph Software, "Sabian Symbols" (TimePassages). astrograph.com/learning-astrology/planetary-condition/sabian-symbols
Our own research (2)
  1. EsoTerrier, draconic chart and Sabian symbols research, 10 October 2026, with the wording checks of 13 and 14 October 2026.
  2. EsoTerrier calculation engine, the Sabian symbols service and its 360-line table in our own words.

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Sabian symbols after Elsie Wheeler and Marc Edmund Jones (San Diego, 1925). The wording of the images, the keywords and the keynotes are EsoTerrier's own. The degree before and after are read after Lynda Hill.